From "You'll Never Be Anything" to Champion — Beating Imposter Syndrome as a Quiet Leader

Has someone ever told you you’ll never be successful or you could never be a leader? And even if you rejected it at the time, doubt set in and part of you still quietly believed it. I’m Greg Weinger. This is the powerful introvert podcast, helping introverts rise in leadership and earn what they deserve, authentically. Today I’m sharing a very inspiring conversation that I had with Just Isaac. He’s a six-time boxing champion, musician, actor, and a motivational speaker. Spoiler alert, he’s also very much an introvert. This conversation got very real, and we talk about dealing with suicidal thoughts, crippling fear, and how Just Isaac slowly rewired his inner story by developing his sense of purpose. You’ll learn how to reframe fear as a landmark, not a threat. Number two, how to turn your biggest defeats into the starting point for your next breakthrough. And number three, how to own your quiet nature and potential as an introvert. A side note for my regular listeners, this conversation is a bit unusual in that it references some religious beliefs. I found Just Isaac’s message to be both universal and very inspiring. So I encourage you to approach this with an open mind as you listen. Let’s dive in. I’m here today with one of the more powerful introverts I’ve ever come across. It’s Just Isaac. Welcome to the show. Hey Greg, thank you for having me. Pleasure to be here. So glad to have you. Among many things, you are a motivational speaker and I saw a clip of you last night, and you are a electric. Well, thank you. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. And I was also thinking, wow, this guy is an introvert too. Question for you, J.I. Are people surprised to find out that you’re an introvert? Many times, yes, because I connect with people so much, so frequently, that most people think that more of an extrovert, but I’m actually more introvert. I’ve been involved in boxing and in music and in the acting, but I’m 100%. I believe I’m 100% introvert. Yeah, you do a lot of activities being up on stage and things that I think people who are less familiar with the concept, I think these are extroverted activities, but we know activities aren’t extroverted and it’s people who are in both introverts and extroverts can do anything they set their mind to. When did you realize that you are an introvert? My goodness. I think growing up, I think being around so many people, but I love the alone time. I love time alone with myself and sometimes even greater than spending time with others. So I think finding a place at the altar being alone and that quiet still place, and just I think would really spark my awareness of being an introvert was during that world crisis that we experienced the pandemic because it was at that time that everyone else was going berserk. And I’m not saying that it didn’t affect me in different ways, but one way I felt normalcy was that I was used to spending time with myself, spending time alone. So during the pandemic, I felt comfortable. I actually just felt like it was, but there were other factors, of course, to consider. But I felt when it was at that time, I said, you know what? I actually love being alone with myself. I love spending time with me. Yes. Yeah, I was right there with you. I was like, this is pretty comfortable. Yeah. And a lot of people were, a lot of people were losing it sort of speed. Yeah. And for a moment, I didn’t understand. I was like, why, like, what’s the big deal? Like, what’s happening? And then I realized, you know, we had the social distancing and we had all these different rules and laws that were set in place. But and actually out of that adversity, the adversity came when I actually had a television show that I was supposed to be the host of on the West Coast of the United States. And all of a sudden, the planes stopped, flying stopped. So I had to, yeah, I just basically got on my knees. I cried out to God. I prayed, I said, I need some direction. My dreams were shattered. I didn’t know what I was going to do. So out of that, that time alone, that alone time, that’s how I think fearlessly with birth and begin to write and to, you know, being an introvert, I really, I’m very, I’m a very private person at times. I should say that I have boundaries, but I’m, I’ve learned that transparency, it takes vulnerability and being vulnerable brings transformation with us. Yes. So the book thing fearlessly that I wrote, I reached over 100 million people. It was birth out of adversity. It was a very challenging time because I had to, I shared myself. I’m oh, I want to write this about myself. I don’t want people to listen. I have boundaries. I have, I’m a private person, but I’m learning, I’m learning to, you know, to just open up. Yeah. So in that quiet time, that gave you space. It gave a lot of people space. The pace of life slowed down. We’d go out walking through the neighborhoods, people around the streets and crossing the street so we didn’t share disease or anything, but it sounds like you used that time and that space to go really internal and ask for guidance. And so that book came out of that time period. Absolutely. And it was very challenging. It was very challenging as I mentioned. I’m very private, but there were things that I talk about in the book like my failures. You know, I don’t just talk about the things that I’m victorious about, but I talk about my failures and in my fears and things that, you know, because I believe that we all have a sense of fear when it comes to life. There’s no one who’s not afraid of something. There’s always something that, you know, that someone’s afraid of. And one thing that I was afraid of was being vulnerable to people at that time. You know, I know that I’ve been in the public eye for many years. You know, I started my first fight. You know, I was just a baby. 16 years old. I started with mixed martial arts at the age of, so I was always around people. And I always be in a room with people. I feel like I was the only one in the room or that that feeling of alone, aloneness or I should say lonely. But when I connected to purpose, that’s when things begin to shift as well. So I could be around people or I can be alone. I have a purpose in life. I have a, I have a God given purpose. So and I believe that not only sustains us as individuals, but that could cause us to thrive in life. And we have a purpose in life. There’s a motion that is towards perfection or excellency, you know, yeah, I did just, that’s what I’ve learned. That’s what I’ve learned. It doesn’t matter who’s in the room or who’s not in the room, you know, I am whatever we finish to sentence with the first two words. I am that’s who we are. We speak that. I believe situations in life to evolve in a way that is progressive in a good way with or without people. We need people. We need horizontal alignment. I really like what you were saying about purpose because that resonates with me. Things really do shift when you you have a sense of purpose and life starts happening around you. It feels like you have more agency, but it’s almost like it’s not agency. It’s coming through you. I’m curious if you want to say a little bit more about that, but I’m really curious what point in your life, like where were you when you made some of these connections? When I made the connections, as I mentioned, yeah, that during the pandemic, that’s when I believe that I made the connections between, you know, the word purpose and what it means to me, the word purpose is connected to our identity. I believe that we all have a purpose. And sometimes we need to discover that purpose. In order to discover that purpose, we need horizontal alignment. I believe in vertical alignment. I believe we have to definitely connect with the divine, have faith, faith in God and there are certain principles, but and values that that are whole true. But the horizontal alignment is so important when it comes to purpose, because if we have other individuals in our life, you know, we can have individuals in our life that are our hindrads, and then we can have individuals in our life that and help to enhance our purpose and to find our purpose. And this is the importance of mentorship. There’s the importance of having a responsibility and having an awareness of the influence, the power of influence. So I think that I’ve known this for some time now, because my life has evolved and I’ve been able to accomplish a few things in life, because I’ve had individuals that have spoken to my life that have poured into me. You know, there’s nothing that I’ve done on my whole. I’ve always had help. I have a realization of that, my help comes from God and my help comes from people. A champion boxer, I was told that I would never be a champion. You see that there were people who told me that was kind of a, it was supposed to be a hindrance, but it actually helped me in the way that it helped me is because my DNA is, you tell me I can’t do something and I’m there. You tell me that you tell me even I can’t do it and I’ll do it. That’s quite a trick. Yeah. So I think that the awareness through the help of people, the mentors, people that were in my life coaching from Boston, coaching from life coaching, going into the film industry, I had Frank Coruso, people like that and Sugary McGinn and the Hague Boone, for a Maywether See year, Dr. Bible Davis, there are so many people that have helped me to accelerate and not only to accelerate, but to understand what purpose is. You know, I’ve had so many, so many great men and women who have helped me and poured into me. Nothing I’ve done on my own. It’s a great recognition and realization. We’re never doing anything on our own. We’re constantly in connection with everything around us and yet we can feel utterly alone, which is through the tough part. Yeah. And I think that when we understand purpose, though, you know, there’s a difference between aloneness in being lonely. We understand purpose, then we experience aloneness and that is perfect. Then, you know, being lonely. I do want to ask a little bit more about your early mentorship and boxing. And first of all, is boxing a good fit for introverts? That’s a good question. I believe so. I believe so. I believe that boxing, there’s so many parallels to life with them boxing. You have to have resilience. You have to have patience. You have to learn how to operate with humility. These are different components that are linked to boxing. And I think that as an introvert, many introverts misunderstood growing up. And even as an adult, I’m able to actually navigate this better than I did as a child, of course. But there are some people as adults who have now learned. I think also for people who are maybe more interior, I think before they’re speak, yeah, there’s time in your head. I mean, you have to be internal apart from a little bit of trash talking. It’s you’re mostly in your head thinking and reacting and trying to be as present as possible in the moment. This is good because we’re getting real-time lessons in resilience. How will just Isaac respond to the challenges of audiovisual gods shining against us? Yeah, it’s all good. I know that this happens for a reason. Everything happens for a reason. Everything in life happens for a reason. And all things are working together for the good, the rest, right? You know, the rest of them that are caught and that are chosen, those that have purchased the purpose of God in life. So I believe that this is just thrusting us to a new place. Let’s go. All right, let’s get there. You can speak about how you have mentors and people have shown up for you. What advice would you have for people who maybe they feel like, oh, nobody’s here for me. Nobody’s showing up for me. That’s a very good question because I have felt that way before. When I felt that way, that was the place of almost desperation. So depending on what it is that you want to do in life, maybe you don’t know what you want to do in life. I believe that we need to align ourselves to the right people. And when you feel like there’s no one that’s that’s available, that’s an illusion. We live on planet earth. There’s billions of people and just need to align ourselves. And it takes a little bit of courage at times to step out, to step out by faith and to say, you know what, I’m going to connect with people. A lot of times with introverts, what we do is we have a tendency of being misunderstood. And it’s not even our fault. But we need to be aware of it. And the misunderstanding is this is that some people can see us, see a introvert and their interpretation of their behavior. Yes, sometimes awkward, but it’s also perceived as why is this person so indifferent to me or why is this person they don’t like me or is this person arrogant? It’s not so much that they’re arrogant that they’re indifferent. It’s just that introverts, we are comfortable within ourselves. We’re comfortable with being alone. And when we are engaging at times, if we don’t not navigate that, if we haven’t learned how to appreciate who we are and who God has made us to be, what happens, we have a tendency of getting more misunderstandings about who we are. Yes. Yeah. No, that is. And so that’s part of the process. If you’re feeling disconnected, the answer really is to open yourself up and share more of what’s going on in your brain and in your heart with people around you, which can feel really scary, really vulnerable. And that’s not easy to do. That’s not easy to do sometimes. I remember walking to the ring, I had to learn how to continue to visualize the outcome, which was a good outcome. At times in life, we can be bombarded. Let’s be honest. Let’s be real. We can be bombarded with thoughts that are negative. And this is the importance of our minds being cultivated continuously with good things, with positive information, good information, anything that’s pure, that’s good, that’s of good report, anything that will enhance our ability to visualize something that is positive, something that we desire to do. A coward dies a thousand deaths. They go over and over again in their mind and outcome that they don’t want. But we’re not caught, we’re not caught to be cowards, we’re caught to be victorious. I believe that. Due to that, that is a struggle, even the struggle for me. And I mean, you just jump on social media, any media, you’re just bombarded with negativity. That’s what sells, that’s what’s trying to grab our attention all the time. So how do you rise above that? How do you cultivate a life that becomes more focused on the positive? In a book thing, fairly, when I mention that I reached over a hundred million people with think fairly, in the book, there’s a chapter that I talk about how our thoughts are superimposed, how we can superimpose our own thoughts, how we can, and this is every high thing that exalts itself against what is right, what is good, we have the power to pull those things down within our own mind. The mind is like a heavenly place. And watch this, when you take the time to begin to speak things into the existence of time that didn’t exist before, because we’ve been given access to do that. This is our divine nature. I believe that we have that within us, that we have the capability of speaking things that be not as though they are. And why do we do that? It’s because we are actually, as we navigate this earth realm, and as we do what we do, I believe that there’s always going to be projections. And just like lifting weights makes you stronger, the more do we exercise, what it is that we put within us and what we think about and what we meditate on, because meditation, all it is, is having a thought that rules around and on my and over and over again until it becomes us. So don’t think about a revonanna. Don’t think about me waterfall. That’s blue. Don’t think about a sunset. You see, you thought about all of those things within a split second, but what you have the power to do, what we have the power to do is to replace those thoughts with another thought. What is it that we desire? What is it that we want to fill our minds and to fill our hearts? How do we want to live? How do we want to fill about ourselves? That’s my belief in my humble opinion. Yeah, I believe that too. And for getting quiet, you give yourself that ability to step in there and with your mind, I’m wonderful for paused again here. It says it’s recording, but you frozen. It says we’re recording on my end. Yeah, so I think it’s something with the internet here. Oh yeah, we paused again. It’s the internet. It’s not the software we’ve convinced it. So this stuff is too potent. It’s breaking the internet. It’s not me. So we need to do is praying. God, we pray that this goes smooth in the name of Jesus. Yeah. So personally, I always raised Jewish, but I haven’t been very religious. I’m much more into Buddhist spiritual techniques, but I meditate daily and that everything you were saying is resonating with me. Excellent. Excellent. So then at a certain point, you became a motivational speaker, but your breakthrough specialist, can you tell us about that? Being a breakthrough specialist, that’s something that’s not a title or an attribute that, you know, I can say that I’ve been able to do on my own. It’s only been by the grace of God that I’ve been able to help people to accelerate. I love helping people. That’s my prime objective in life. And I’ve had to break past my own limits and overcome and break barriers and change limiting ways of thinking and actions. I’ve had to learn how to do that in order to operate and navigate multiple realms. A dimension is a posture of thought that dimension, how we see things. And I’ve learned that what I do is I serve. But when it comes to breakthrough in someone else’s life, I can tell my story, but my story alone is not good enough. It has to be principles that are connected to success. There are principles that I believe that if we implement, there are laws that were governed by. You know, there’s a laws of gravity, the laws of physics, the laws of escalation. There’s different laws that were governed by. And I just believe that there are certain principles that if we embrace certain principles, we will see the result. It’s found in the blueprint. And I have the breakthrough blueprint. This is why I’ve been able to capture six titles, boxing, two three three provincial titles, one national title, two golden glove titles. And this is how I was able to make the top 40 across the United States. Number six in the country. Number 21 in the country when I was told that it would never happen. And it was because there were certain principles that I apply with acting as well. You know, landing lead roles in films and having an opportunity to you know, navigate film and television. That only happened because I had to learn how to visualize. I had to learn how to believe in myself and then believe in others as well. You know, even with in my school, with school, I was told at one point, you’re never going to be anything. You’re never going to accomplish anything alive. My teacher actually said that you and I had to actually go through a test. They actually did a test and the test was the bleach report app is your destination for sports right now. The NBA is heating up. March, Manus is here and MLB is almost back. Every day there’s a new headline, a new highlight, a new moment you’ve got to see for yourself. That’s why I stay locked in with the bleach report app. For me, it’s about staying connected to my sports. I could follow the teams I care about, get real-time scores, breaking news, and highlights all in one place. Download the bleach report app today so you never miss a moment. I thought there was going to put me in this, they wanted to put me in the slow class, so to speak. But what ended up happening was I took the test and I scored a high, one of the highest in the class. The only reason that happened because I took time to focus on something that I knew was important. I’m talking elementary, but what a lot of people don’t know is when you’re a child, when you’re a little boy and you don’t or a little girl or you see children, and maybe they’re not functioning to the capacity, what you think that they can function. I’ve worked with children for many years as well too. I found that there’s always a confounding fact that there’s always a factor that contributes to their behavior. The fact that it contributed to my behavior while I was responding the way I was responding, unable to focus as a kid told that I would never be anything, which basically reinforced what I was already feeling. It was because I had there was dysfunction in the family, there was separation, and I’m just a kid and I’m experiencing all these things and my grades went down. But I’ve learned in life to look at people and to separate people from their behavior and to see people for not just their behavior, but what is going on, what is causing this behavior. I mean, I was suicidal at one time, didn’t want to live. Introvert, suicidal, and I would have done it, but it was by the grace of God that he put people in my life that mentored me and helped me to accelerate in life, helped me to see myself from a different perspective than what I was told that was negative. My people that believed in me, and even if they didn’t believe in me, they spoke it. And guess what? My life began to evolve into change, but now I understand it’s not so much important what everybody else says about me. It’s about what I say about myself. It’s not so much important when people say about you. It’s more important what you say about yourself and that will reflect. Yes, sir. Right. Because it’s your thoughts that are creating your reality. That’s defining what’s possible. That’s right. That’s right. You’re talking about breakthroughs. Say you’re working with somebody new. What is it that they’re breaking through? What are the limitations? I believe that there are things within our personality. The way that we think, the way that we act and the way that we feel is affecting our lifestyle. The sum of the things that they need to break through is how do we fill about ourselves? How do we think about ourselves? And how do we respond to the way that we think or do we just react? I think a lot of the things that we battle is from our childhood, things that we’ve been told about who we are. We’ve been programmed. We’ve been programmed to a certain extent. And to be more specific, I would say fear. Fear is the biggest one. Fear is only a thought. Fear is something that hasn’t happened. But in our own minds, we can talk ourselves out of experiencing something beautiful before it even happens. If we don’t understand the purpose of fear, the purpose of fear is a landmark that you know what? I have the potential to accelerate and to go through this. I don’t try to avoid things that make me afraid. I go into them because on the other side of that, there’s something spectacular to be discovered. Yes. It’s almost like it’s a sign, like a pointer over here. Good stuff this way. Yes. Yes. And you listen, I’m not going to tell you that I’ve mastered it all because I’m still learning every day. I’m learning every day. And sometimes we have a fear that things will never change. Well, one key factor that one sign that we change, that we’re willing to change, is that when we have an awareness of that the way that I’m thinking, the way that I’m acting, and the way that I’m feeling, the thoughts that we’re having, it’s creating the choices that we’re making. And you know, the choices, the choices that we make in is actually leading to our behavior. Our behavior is going to create these experiences, right? These new experiences are like, when we have an experience, there’s an emotional connection to that experience. So we have that emotional connection to the experience. Guess what happens again? New thoughts, the same thoughts begin to cause a cycle. And cycles can be broken. Cycles can definitely be broken. And that’s part of the breakthrough. Yeah. So that’s part of your method is you’re looking to identify what are the cycles. And then what are the thought patterns that are leaving? Yes, sir. Like keeping people stuck in that stuck in what are the fears that you have that are holding you back? Then you go to the opposite spectrum. You go to the exact opposite because many of those things are lies anyway. Many of what we perceive about ourself is not even true because a lot of what we perceive about ourself is from our past experiences. And if we go by past experiences alone, that’s not the greatest landmark. We are beings that are called to be futuristic. We are called to speak into our future and to become what it is that we’re speaking. So J.I, you’re so in tune with that because I think because you’re intuitive and you’re nature and you’re obviously you’ve really magnified this capacity to see into the future of envision something. And when people work with you, do they typically have a bit of a vision or are they can encounter people who are blocked from that? I just I just don’t know what my purpose is and what my vision is. Let’s say this that the there’s a key factor that we all have. We’re all growing. And once growth stops, the king begins. Are there people that have come in contact with the do not have a vision and do not have a purpose? The first person I could think about as the person that I know the most was myself at one time. I had no vision and I had no purpose. And that makes me relatable to people who don’t, who are her trying to discover, you know, the greatness that’s inside of them. I can relate to that. I can relate to waking up with no purpose and no real identity, no direction in life. I can relate to that. But I also can relate to, you know, what it means to wake up with, you know, with not necessarily a drive, but a why? Why am I living? Why? What is the purpose? What is the reason why am I alive? Even being alive and life has a different flavor to life when we have our why and we understand what it is that I’m caught to be. You are caught and you are chosen. You are caught and you were chosen. There’s something that specifically that’s within your DNA that you’ve been caught to accomplish, caught to do. And I believe what makes that viable and alive is when we understand that it always involves helping someone in some extent, yes, sir. Yeah. And I wanted to extent that looking anywhere else, like in instead of asking, how can I help? That could be the key. I mean, I was in that situation myself. All of the motives when I felt bad, all my motivations were essentially selfish. And as soon as I started asking, you know, how can I help people in really feeling like, oh, I can help people. How do I do it? You know, how do I do more of it? That’s when it all changed. Yes. Yes. Because I was diagnosed with manic depression at one time. A lot of people surprise when they hear that, but listen, I’ve been through it. I’ve been through some storms. I’ve been through some fire. So I can relate in anyone that’s listening to this. Understand this. You mentioned the like being down and having those experiences. When we give what it does is it takes our mind off of ourself. And I believe that selfish people are never happy people. Now, I understand it. There’s a chemical imbalance. And I understand that there are thoughts that are being bombarded. People are being bombarded with certain thoughts with depression. And I can relate to that. And then you have the medication and everything else, the hormones, everything that’s happening. But if you could just take time to give of yourself to help someone to do even when you don’t feel like it. Something transpires within us. There’s something I believe within our makeup as human beings that when we give of ourself something incredible begins to transpire intrinsically. That means internally. And people can sense it externally. And that’s what I love to feed off. That’s great. That’s great. So what turns out giving is the best anti-depressant on the market. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. It’s actually medicine to the soul when we give, yes. Yeah. So was it also in that time period going back to COVID where you were doing this reflection? And then you wrote, think fearlessly. And is that same time period you decided to start writing novel? Yeah. Well, yeah. Think fearlessly was birth out of adversity. And I had to surrender. I had to surrender in a sense where I had to become vulnerable. I had to reflect with them myself and see who actually really am. I had to go deeper than myself. But you know, I had a television show and that I was scheduled to host on the west coast of the United States. And when the pandemic hit, all the planes were shut down and my dreams were shattered. I didn’t know what I was going to do. I actually felt that feeling of depression. And as we were talking about just earlier about giving of ourselves when we help people, I said, how can I help in this situation? That wasn’t my initial thought. My initial thought was was poor me. I was like, what am I going to do? But what like, these are my dreams, you know, the tears fell and I got on my knees and I began to, you know, to meditate and pray. And what ended up happening was I began to write. And I began to write stories. Not only stories, but stories of failure and stories that I was victorious. And with that, in those stories, my objective is ultimately to help people and to show people that there is a way out of your situation and a way through what it is that you’re going through. And to think fairly seriously, it doesn’t mean that we’re not going to have fear. It means that we understand the purpose of fear. And that book, think fairly seriously, I reached over 100 million people. globally, it was a trying time because, you know, I’m a private person. I don’t want people knowing my failures. Why? Why would I do that? Why would I want people to know my failures? But then I began to understand the purpose of being vulnerable and transparent. And transparency brings transformation in other people’s lives because we become relatable. You went through that too. You mean you experienced that? Yes, I experienced that. And this is what the outcome was because, you know, of certain beliefs and principles that I’ve embraced. And because of people that have helped me throughout the years, you know, yeah. What’s an example of a failure? I think that you overcome failure to overcome. I think, well, that’s a good question. A failure, I think not recognizing the purpose of situations or experiences. That’s a failure in itself. We got to know what it is that everything that we encounter serves a purpose. And I think that when we ignore that, I think that we failed. We’re not failures because we fail. We’re only failures if we accept failure as final. Yes. So yes. Yes. I failed to understand that in the beginning before my boxing career, I failed some things. I failed to understand the value of who I was before I did boxing, before I did music, before I became a three time author, before I became an actor on film and television. I failed to recognize my value. I failed to recognize God’s love for me. That was a failure in my life. And that’s what caused me to go into a place of self-centered. It gave me a it gave me ocean towards destruction. But by the grace of God, everything has shifted. The paradigm has shifted because I began to recognize that I love myself. I love people. I love God. And it’s not what I do that makes me able to receive God’s love. It’s is love is not based on our performance. So I failed to recognize those things. I failed to recognize the value of who I am earlier on in my life. Yes. But then you realize that your value is inherent and no matter what you’re doing. That’s right. That’s right. And it’s not based. God’s love is not based on our performance. And we do that as humans. Right. We look at people and we love them because and you know, it really helped me too because I’m able to love people at times that are unlovable. You know, and how do I do that? You search for what good qualities of character the person has that you hate the most. Because there’s something to be discovered. And if we can’t do that, there’s something’s wrong. Something’s wrong. And I just love to identify the good qualities of character and people and individuals. You know, because there were people who did that with me when when I was unlovable. When I couldn’t, I didn’t know up from bottom right from left. There were individuals who saw who recognized and helped me to discover to go deeper within myself and with others to help them. You know, it’s like a reciprocal flow. It’s a it’s like a chair reaction. You know, when it comes to to seeing and discovering, that’s what life is about. It’s about seeing and discovering. What is life if we can’t if we can’t dream, if we can’t, you know, explore with the purpose of life, I believe that that is another purpose of life for us to be able to discover and to dream and to have vision and to have purpose in life. Yes. Such such good stuff. J.I. Yeah. And it’s it’s an act of generosity and an act of imagination. All that’s just to sense into the goodness and other people. And, you know, other one of my practices is thinking about people as a child or like you think about your parents as your child. Just times it takes that and feel what it feels what’s the reality of that the truth of that for them. Absolutely. Absolutely. Wow. It’s life in itself. It has so many curves, has so many things that that we don’t see. Right around the corner is your breakthrough. Your breakthrough is right around the corner. You just have to have faith and have hope. And you know what the perfect love is, the perfect love is which causes all fear to dissipate. All fear dissipates, I believe, when we have the perfect love and yes, love is an action word. And I believe that throughout life, when I remember what God has done for me, when I remember how God has looked down on me and has discovered something has created something within me that I didn’t even see. And when I’ve been shown that it’s helped to pull me out of darkness until his marvelous light. Yes. Yes. And now you’re sharing it, sharing your life. Thank you. Thank you. I just, you know, hope, what my prime objective is in life is just to help people. When I’m speaking to massive crowds, when I’m speaking to people, I’m able to identify through frequencies where certain people are within the audience. And it’s at that time where I love to connect with people and to be vulnerable so that, you know, they understand that they’re not alone. It’s something about when you have, when you’re going through something and somebody can understand, they can relate to what it is that you’re going through. Helping on the side and putting on a facade and pretending that everything is great all the time. Come on now. Life, we have struggles, we have shortcomings, we have failures, we have ups and we have downs. And I know the focus is on the ups, but at times, you know, somebody just needs a little help. Just need a little help, need something to be spoken into them to tell them to remind them. Listen, you cannot measure potential. Potential cannot be measured, you know, and every blockage, every glass ceiling is broken, every blockage, barrier is overcome. When we understand that potential cannot be measured. And bringing things around to a conclusion, is there anything you would like to say to people who are introverts as it relates to all of these things? There’s particular experience of the world, are there a particular set of challenges? Say, key factors, key components that need to be prevalent is developing resilience and faith. Resilience, meaning you go through things. Don’t just give up, don’t give up on your life. Don’t give up on your dreams or your vision. Don’t give up on it. You have to understand that these setbacks, they’re they’re thrusting you into a comeback. But don’t give up to early who one step away from your breakthrough, you have to understand that the process is like when the diamond is being formed, when the diamond is being shaped, it takes thousands of years of heat and pressure. So I would say that whatever it is that you’re going through, the process, if you just hold on within the midst of the process, if you just keep showing up, keep doing the things you are called to do, something spectacular is going to happen. And faith is reaching and pulling out that thing that you hold for. It’s going to happen. Your dreams, the things that you desire, there may be setbacks, there may be times when things are, they seem like it’s almost impossible. Don’t give up. Press forward. The breakthrough is coming. All right. Thank you for that. And thank you so much for being so generous with your time and all your wisdom, all the things that you have to share. Is a pleasure being here, Greg. And you got an awesome show. And I love to to be back when you get the sequel of traffic fight, traffic fight, traffic fight, fight the shadow series. Awesome. Thanks. Thanks, J.R. All right. Let’s take a moment to recap what we learned from just Isaac about beating and posture syndrome as a quiet leader. Number one, remember how to reframe fear as a landmark, not a threat. Because fear is a sign that you’re getting close to an opportunity. You’re just on the verge of enormous growth. It’s not that something’s wrong with you. When that feeling shows up of fear, instead of shrinking back, you can start to recognize it as a signal that you’re stepping into your next level of impact. Number two, remember how to turn your biggest defeats into the starting point for a breakthrough by examining the stories you’ve carried for years and rewriting them. They can become the very material you use to build a stronger, more grounded version of yourself. And number three, remember how to own your quiet nature and unseen potential as an introvert. It’s because of your depth, your reflectiveness and your empathy. These are your strengths and these are what qualify you to lead. You don’t have to become louder or a bigger performer in order to have that impact. You just have to bring more of your true self to the table. If this conversation with just Isaac resonates with you, here’s one thing I’d love for you to do next. Follow the powerful introvert podcast so you don’t miss future episodes on beating and posture syndrome and leading with quiet confidence. I’m Greg Wanger. Keep leading with quiet confidence and I’ll see you next time.